if you keep up, if you engage with us, if you sustain this energy, we will succeed, and the american people are doing it. keep it up. we're going to get this done. >> do you -- the nra is trying to reach five million by the end of this debate. do you guys have a number you want to hit? >> we want to double, triple our numbers. for the amount of -- they've got 100,000 people, whatever, since this debate started. we have had more than that, and we're still trying to count how many new people that is. we're just one organization among many who work on this. you know, this is really -- now that we have leadership from the white house, that can bring every group that works on gun policy together under one motivated common groel that will then get the people involved and the change that we need. >> colin goddard from the brady campaign, thank you for your time, and thanks for the insight. >> thanks for having me. >> coming up, if the debate over gun control wasn't sufficiently charged up enough, america's toughest sheriff joe arpayo, leader of the cold case posse, is putting together yet a